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stated on January 8, 2025 in a post on Threads:

“Blue items that survive” California wildfires are “indicative of DEW’s (Directed Energy Weapons).”

False
By Madison Czopek
January 10, 2025

If wildfires leave blue items unburned, does it prove directed-energy weapons were involved? No

If your time is short

  • Directed energy weapons, which fire concentrated energy at light speed, can include high-energy lasers and high-power microwave weapons, according to the federal Government Accountability Office.

  • Directed energy weapons powerful enough to spark fires wouldn’t spare items from destruction just because they are blue, an expert said. 

  • When wildfires burn, they don’t leave a uniform pattern of total devastation, wildfire science experts told PolitiFact.

See the sources for this fact-check

As fires tore through Southern California’s neighborhoods, a Threads user encouraged people to pay special attention to whatever the flames left untouched.

“Hey everyonee in the area of the L.A. fires, be on the lookout for any blue items that survive the fire and take pictures of them,” read the Jan. 8 post that misspelled the word “everyone.” “Many of the recent fires had blue items which survived unscathed: cars, umbrellas, tarps, t-shirts, plastic bins, etc whereas even the aluminum engine parts and wheels melted to liquid. This is indicative of DEW’s (Directed Energy Weapons) which, depending on the frequency, will leave items of a certain (cont’d),” with a subsequent Threads post completing the statement, saying, “… color unscathed because color is also a frequency in the light spectrum.”

This post was flagged as part of Meta’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Meta, which owns Facebook, Instagram and Threads.)

False graphic for claim that fires skip blue objects as proof of DEWs 1-10-2025
Figure 1: Screenshots from Threads.

(Screenshot from Threads)

The Threads post follows a trend we’ve seen before: When wildfires engulfed parts of Maui, Hawaii, in August 2023 and Texas in early 2024, some social media users claimed directed energy weapons caused the destruction; PolitiFact rated those claims False. 

Already, we’ve fact-checked a claim that footage Fox News aired Jan. 7 showed directed energy weapons starting the fires in California — that’s False.

Like those false claims, this post about the California wildfires is inaccurate in multiple ways, experts on directed energy weapons and wildfires said. 

Directed energy weapons fire concentrated energy at light speed and might include high-energy lasers and high-power microwave weapons, the federal Government Accountability Office reported.

The weapons wouldn’t spare items from destruction just because they are blue. 

Iain Boyd, an aerospace engineering sciences professor at the University of Colorado Boulder and Director of the Center for National Security Initiatives, has repeatedly told news organizations including The Associated Press and Agence France-Presse that although high-energy lasers might interact differently with items made of different materials or colors, an item of a certain color wouldn’t be immune. 

“If there is enough energy in a laser beam to start a large fire, then it will burn through the material no matter what its color,” Boyd told Agence France-Presse in 2023. 

Also, whatever items survive a wildfire — whether they’re blue or any other color — do not prove directed energy weapons figured in the catastrophe. Wildfire behavior experts told PolitiFact that when wildfires burn, they don’t leave a uniform pattern of devastation.

“It’s absolutely not surprising that there’s uneven patterns in what we call fire effects,” said Maureen Kennedy, associate professor in quantitative fire ecology and forest management at the University of Washington, Tacoma. “Fires are really subject to randomness.” 

Janice Coen, project scientist at the U.S. National Science Foundation’s National Center for Atmospheric Research, said that this varied destruction from wildfires is called the “fire mosaic.”

“There is nothing inherently suspicious about uneven patterns of damage,” Coen said. “Severely burned areas can lie next to untouched areas. One home can be destroyed while the one next to it is untouched.” 

That has happened during the greater Los Angeles fires: CNN interviewed an Altadena, California, resident whose house burned down. A nearby home appeared largely unscathed, however.  

Homes burned in Palisades, Los Angeles 01-09-2025
Figure 2: Homes are seen burned while a few still stand, Jan. 9, in the Pacific Palisades section of Los Angeles. (AP)

Homes are seen burned while a few still stand, Jan. 9, in the Pacific Palisades section of Los Angeles. (AP)

Kennedy said that’s largely because sudden wind shifts can redirect heat and determine what combusts and what doesn’t, though she added that factors including moisture differences and topography can also influence fire behavior. 

“In the urban environment, there are differences possibly simply with landscaping and building materials and the proximity to the other fuels,” she said. “The lucky house — the one that survived — might have been just far enough from the ones that were burning in the moments that the wind shifted that it was the lucky one to have survived.”

Kennedy expressed no suspicion about the fires being caused by directed energy weapons. 

“These fire events are pretty consistent with our understanding of how fires work in that area,” she said.

The fires’ causes are so far unknown, but powerful Santa Ana winds and the abnormally dry conditions in Southern California sped the wildfire’s spread. 

Our ruling

A Threads post said, “blue items that survive” the California wildfires are “indicative of DEW’s (Directed Energy Weapons).”

Directed energy weapons wouldn’t spare items from destruction just because they are blue, one  expert said. And when wildfires burn, they don’t leave a uniform pattern of total devastation, wildfire science experts told PolitiFact. This means that just because the fires might spare some blue items, it won’t prove that directed energy weapons were involved in the catastrophe.

We rate this claim False. 

RELATED: No, this video doesn’t show directed energy weapons being used amid the Los Angeles wildfires

RELATED: Energy weapons, blue roofs and food supply attacks: Texas wildfires revive baseless claims

RELATED: Fires can hop; directed energy weapons did not spare blue things in Hawaii

Our Sources

Threads post, Jan. 8, 2025

Interview with Maureen Kennedy, associate professor in quantitative fire ecology and forest management and sciences and mathematics division chair at the University of Washington, Tacoma, Jan. 9, 2024

Email interview with Janice Coen, project scientist at the U.S. National Science Foundation  National Center for Atmospheric Research, Jan. 9, 2024

Email exchange with Iain Boyd, an aerospace engineering sciences professor at the University of Colorado Boulder and Director of the Center for National Security Initiatives, Jan. 9, 2024

PolitiFact, Fires can hop; directed energy weapons did not spare blue things in Hawaii, Aug. 24, 2023

PolitiFact, Energy weapons, blue roofs and food supply attacks: Texas wildfires revive baseless claims, March 6, 2024

U.S. Government Accountability Office, Science & Tech Spotlight: Directed Energy Weapons, May 25, 2023

The Associated Press, Social media videos push baseless conspiracy theory that blue items were spared from Maui wildfires, Aug. 30, 2023

Agence France-Presse Fact Check, Blue objects in Hawaii do not prove lasers started wildfires, Aug. 31, 2023

The Conversation, High-energy laser weapons: A defense expert explains how they work and what they are used for, March 7, 2024

CNN, Neighbor says this home was ‘touched by God’ in community that now looks ‘like a war zone,’ Jan. 10, 2025

BBC, What’s the latest on the Los Angeles wildfires and what caused them? Jan. 10, 2025

BBC, What are Santa Ana winds and how are they fuelling LA wildfires? Jan. 8, 2025

NBC News, The dangerous combination fueling the L.A. fires: Exceptional dryness and strong winds, Jan. 8, 2025

The Washington Post, Why the L.A. fires became so bad so quickly, Jan. 8, 2025

The Washington Post, Palisades, Eaton fires expected to be most destructive in L.A. history, accessed Jan. 10, 2025

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