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Ron Paul
Ron Paul
stated on September 5, 2007 in a debate in Durham, N.H.:

“We’ve lost over 5,000 Americans over there in Afghanistan, in Iraq, and plus the civilians killed.”

Mostly True
By Jody Kyle
September 9, 2007

Fatality count isn’t that high

Paul’s numbers are off, but not by a lot.

According to the Defense Department, 3,741 American troops had been killed in Iraq as of Sept. 5, 2007. The corresponding figure for deaths in Afghanistan is 372.

In addition, 232 American civilian workers have been killed in Iraq, according to the latest report of the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction.

Official figures are difficult to come by for civilian deaths in Afghanistan, but the Web site icasualties.org, which tracks casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan, lists only four American civilian deaths in Afghanistan.

So, add up the military deaths, combined with the American civilian casualties from the SIGIR report and icasualties.org, and it totals 4,349. This figure is significant, but short of Congressman Paul’s assertion of over 5,000.

Our Sources

Department of Defense, Casualty report as of Sept. 5, 2007

Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction, Quarterly Report, July 2007

Operation Enduring Freedom, Coalition Deaths

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