At the final presidential debate of the 2020 campaign, President Donald Trump tried to pin his administration’s policy of separating families at the border on former Vice President Joe Biden.
“They did it. We changed the policy,” Trump said.
That claim needs context. Like the Trump administration, the Obama administration used chain-link enclosures to hold migrants at border facilities, but it did not have a policy to separate families at the U.S.-Mexico border.
On Facebook, some users took it a step further.
“If you heard Trump say ‘good’ about the kids being separated from their parents, and you still plan to vote for him, you’re inhuman,” says an Oct. 23 post from a Facebook page called Close the Camps.
The post was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.) It has been shared more than 1,400 times.
Did Trump really say that separating families at the border is “good?”
We checked the transcript of the debate. Trump did not make that comment — and other fact-checkers have debunked the claim. Close the Camps corrected its post after Reuters fact-checked it.
Trump said “go ahead” to moderator Kristen Welker.
The exchange came near the end of a debate segment about immigration. Trump was criticizing the Obama administration’s “catch-and-release” policies, which provided for the release of migrants while they waited for their days in immigration court. The Trump administration announced it was ending the policy in September 2019.
The president’s comment to Welker came after Biden mentioned a report that found the Trump administration has yet to track down the parents of 545 children at the border. Here are the remarks in context:
Welker: “All right. Let’s move on to the next section.”
Trump: “But we don’t have to worry about it, because they terminated it. So we don’t have to worry about it anymore, Joe.”
Welker: “Let’s move on to the next section.”
Biden: “That’s right. And you have 525 kids not knowing where in God’s name they’re going to be and lost their parents.”
Trump (to Welker): “Go ahead.”
Watch the moment for yourself in the video below. Trump is looking at Welker and says, “Go ahead,” not “good.”
The Facebook post is inaccurate. We rate it False.
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- President Donald Trump said "go ahead" to moderator Kristen Welker, who was trying to change the subject.
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Our Sources
BuzzFeed News, "No, Trump Didn't Say ‘Good’ In Response To A Question About Kids Separated From Their Parents At The Border," Oct. 22, 2020
Facebook post, Oct. 23, 2020
NBC News, "Lawyers say they can't find the parents of 545 migrant children separated by Trump administration," Oct. 20, 2020
NPR, "Trump Administration To End 'Catch And Release' Immigration Policy, Says DHS Chief," Sept. 24, 2019
PolitiFact, "Fact-checking Donald Trump, Joe Biden in the final presidential debate," Oct. 22, 2020
Reuters, "Fact check: Trump did not say it was "good" that over 500 children at the border had lost their parents," Oct. 23, 2020
Rev, Donald Trump & Joe Biden Final Presidential Debate Transcript 2020, Oct. 22, 2020
Vox, "‘Catch and release,’ explained: the heart of Trump’s new border agenda," April 9, 2018
YouTube video from C-SPAN, Oct. 22, 2020
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