No evidence to support rumors of ‘We hate Muslims’ chant at Trump victory rally


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Supporters cheer as voting returns come in at Donald Trump’s election night event, at the New York Hilton Midtown in Manhattan. (Damon Winter/The New York Times)

A viral tweet allegedly sent from the ground of an election night rally for President-elect Donald Trump said that “thousands” of his supporters were chanting a racist message. The claim was fake.

As Buzzfeed and others have reported, the tweet was sent from the account of a fake British sports journalist who has a history of making allegations about racist chants in mass crowds.

Another “Simon Rowntree” account was suspended over the summer, but Buzzfeed managed to screenshot his Twitter bio, which said he was a soccer writer for Forest Echo News. The site‘s account has also been suspended but it declared itself to be a parody in its bio, per Buzzfeed’s screenshot.

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The parody news site was the creation of a group of friends who set up fake sports journalist accounts, a person who responded on behalf of Forest Echo News told Buzzfeed. Rowntree is likely a Forest Echo fan jumping on the bandwagon.

Here are some examples of Rowntree tweets alleging chants of racial epithets at British soccer games from his current account.

Racist chants are not uncommon at British soccer matches, so Rowntree’s tweets are believable though unverified and likely satirical (see Poe’s law for internet parodies).

As for Rowntree’s allegation about the Trump rally, we have not found video footage or other evidence supporting it.

Trump held his victory party at the New York Hilton in Midtown Manhattan, which can accommodate 3,300 in its grand ballroom.

Rowntree claimed the chant began at 7:04 p.m., about 30 minutes after the event had began. According to videos, the crowds were rather subdued around that time.

News reports indicate Trump supporters inside and outside the Hilton did not get rowdy until about 10 p.m., when projections began favoring Trump as the winner.

A few dozen — not “thousands” — supporters roaming Midtown shouted “T-R-U-M-P, we will beat Hill-ar-y,” “U-S-A”  and “CNN sucks” at about 10:25 p.m., according to Patch New York. And Trump supporters inside the Hilton began to chant “lock her up” around 2 a.m., CBS’ Sopan Deb and NBC’s Katy Tur both reported.

Our ruling

A viral tweet said, “thousands” of people at a Manhattan rally for Trump chanted, “We hate Muslims, we hate blacks, we want our great country back.”

The widely shared claim is baseless, sent from a fake account tied to a parody British soccer news site.

We rate it Pants on Fire.

By
Linda Qiu
Staff writer
November 9, 2016

Truth-o-meter Ruling

Pants on Fire!

Statement

Says "thousands" at a Manhattan rally for Donald Trump were chanting "We hate Muslims, we hate blacks, we want our great country back."

Context

a viral Tweet

Speaker/Target

Targets: Donald Trump

Statement Date

November 8, 2016
Our Sources

Twitter, Simon Rowntree, Nov. 8, 2016

Buzzfeed, "We’re Tracking All The Election Day Rumors, Hoaxes, And Debunkings," Nov, 7, 2016

Buzzfeed, "There’s A Twitter War Going On Between Rival Groups Of Fake Football Journalists," June 16, 2016

Radio Free Europe, "Russian Media Duped By Fake British Soccer Journalists' Hooligan Tweets," June 15, 2016

The Guardian, "Russian media base Euro 2016 violence claims on fake Twitter accounts," June 16, 2016

Sports Joe, "The curious, very offensive case of Simon Rowntree and the fake site Forest Echo News," accessed Nov. 9, 2016

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